Lindsay Clancy trial – Day 11

brooke mcleod
4 days ago
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Starting the day before the jury enters

Judge reminds everyone about the court order that restricts the publication of some media and individuals.
Next he addresses the defence motion to add a Miss Thorndike to the witness list
- Defence presents a witness by the name of Emily Thorndike; she was a social worker at Mclean and worked on the same unit as the one Lindsay was on for 7 years from 2014-2021
- This witness seen a clip of testimony where prosecution made it out to sound like Lindsay had so many options to take advantage of while in Mclean and just chose not to, then she went on tik-tok and wanted to set the record straight that how the prosecution presented it wasn't accurate
- A person who knew reddington and was on tik-tok showed him the video and him and his P.I. worked to get in touch with her.
- She is willing to testify to the affidavit submitted talking about what woeful environment MLAN Hospital offers, especially on holidays such as major holidays like New Year
- Judge is struggling with the fact that there is a 1 year gap between her leaving and Lindsay entering as things could change in that time.
- Defence agrees that it should be a non issue but the Prosecution questions lead the impression of a 5 star program that Lindsay just didn't want to take advantage of.
- Judge wonders why they can't just present records of the staffing at the time. Reddington explains that he's struggled to get information from Prosecution witneses like Mclean but that they would willing hand them over to the DA's office right away.

Prosecution argues it's unfair due to time of presenting witness
says reddington should have asked Dr. Goodheart about that, however the judge stops her and says he did and she said she didn't know.
they argue that her watching the trial would be another reason she can't testify. And worries it would just be an opinion in favour of defence.

Ultimately the judge basically tells them he can either do a Voir-Dire hearing when they essentially ask he questions and hear her answers outside of the jury presence to see if she a fair witness. or they can find a solution they both agree to and find fair.

Witness #63 –Rebecca Jollotta- Called by the prosecution

Psychiatric Nurse Practitioner

Has treated approx. 5 cases of PostPartum Psychosis over the last 5 years and hundreds of cases of Postpartum anxiety or depression.
Works at the same clinic as Julie Paul, the clinic is focused on treating and helping women who are pregnant or Postpartum
The offer medication management, short term counselling services, nurses and options for those needing higher level of care.
testifies that typical postpartum is 1 year with the first 3 months being the highest risk period however due to some people not experiencing struggles until 9 or 10 months they go off of 2 years for postpartum to allow time to treat them.
Lindsay was transferred to her when Julie Paul left.
She described Lindsay as:
- Anxious.
- Struggling with broken sleep.
- Experiencing significant depression and anxiety symptoms.
- Still functioning and able to participate normally in the appointment.
- Having a linear, goal-directed thought process.
- Showing no obvious signs of mania or psychosis during the evaluation.
- Not expressing suicidal or homicidal intent at that appointment.
- Her screening scores were significant:
  - Edinburgh Postnatal Depression Scale: 21/30
  - GAD-7: 19
  - showing substantial depression and anxiety symptoms
Patrick came to an in person appointment and gave insights to Lindsay's behaviours and sleep struggles.
Jollotta testified that she considered the possibility of bipolar disorder.
- Why?
  She heard information about:
  - Lindsay going approximately 48 hours without sleeping without feeling tired.
  - Racing thoughts.
  - Her reactions to certain medications, including Zoloft.
  - Changes in her mood and energy.
  - Those things raised the possibility of an underlying bipolar-spectrum disorder. she never officially diagnosed her with bi-polar though
Lindsay was taking several medications and was increasingly concerned about how they made her feel.
One of the concerns she communicated to Jollotta involved Ativan and the possibility of becoming dependent on it.
She also reported feeling detached/disconnected from herself.
Jollotta responded by adjusting medication and discussing alternatives.
Lindsay also messaged Jollotta through the patient portal.
- In one message, she described:
  - Intrusive thoughts she had never experienced before
  - Feeling completely hopeless
  - Concerns about becoming dependent on medication
Lindsay communicated regularly through the patient portal allowing the jury to see Lindsay was actually disclosing her concerns to her provider
Nurse Jollotta recommends and partial hospitalization program at a certain clinic
- Lindsay went but was turned away due to them feeling she was on so many medications.
Lindsay was experiencing substantial depression, anxiety, insomnia and intrusive thoughts but Jollotta did not observe psychosis or believe Lindsay was going to harm herself or her children.

I found Nurse Jollotta to be very professional and competent. Unfortunately it seems that every prosecution witness says they didn't see concerns or signs of psychosis but clearly present a woman who was struggling and getting worse by the day.

Starting the day before the jury enters

Judge reminds everyone about the court order that restricts the publication of some media and individuals.

Next he addresses the defence motion to add a Miss Thorndike to the witness list

Defence presents a witness by the name of Emily Thorndike; she was a social worker at Mclean and worked on the same unit as the one Lindsay was on for 7 years from 2014-2021

This witness seen a clip of testimony where prosecution made it out to sound like Lindsay had so many options to take advantage of while in Mclean and just chose not to, then she went on tik-tok and wanted to set the record straight that how the prosecution presented it wasn't accurate

A person who knew reddington and was on tik-tok showed him the video and him and his P.I. worked to get in touch with her.

She is willing to testify to the affidavit submitted talking about what woeful environment MLAN Hospital offers, especially on holidays such as major holidays like New Year

Judge is struggling with the fact that there is a 1 year gap between her leaving and Lindsay entering as things could change in that time.

Defence agrees that it should be a non issue but the Prosecution questions lead the impression of a 5 star program that Lindsay just didn't want to take advantage of.

Judge wonders why they can't just present records of the staffing at the time. Reddington explains that he's struggled to get information from Prosecution witneses like Mclean but that they would willing hand them over to the DA's office right away.

Prosecution argues it's unfair due to time of presenting witness

says reddington should have asked Dr. Goodheart about that, however the judge stops her and says he did and she said she didn't know.

they argue that her watching the trial would be another reason she can't testify. And worries it would just be an opinion in favour of defence.

Ultimately the judge basically tells them he can either do a Voir-Dire hearing when they essentially ask he questions and hear her answers outside of the jury presence to see if she a fair witness. or they can find a solution they both agree to and find fair.

Witness #63 –Rebecca Jollotta- Called by the prosecution

Psychiatric Nurse Practitioner

Has treated approx. 5 cases of PostPartum Psychosis over the last 5 years and hundreds of cases of Postpartum anxiety or depression.

Works at the same clinic as Julie Paul, the clinic is focused on treating and helping women who are pregnant or Postpartum

The offer medication management, short term counselling services, nurses and options for those needing higher level of care.

testifies that typical postpartum is 1 year with the first 3 months being the highest risk period however due to some people not experiencing struggles until 9 or 10 months they go off of 2 years for postpartum to allow time to treat them.

Lindsay was transferred to her when Julie Paul left.

She described Lindsay as:

Anxious.

Struggling with broken sleep.

Experiencing significant depression and anxiety symptoms.

Still functioning and able to participate normally in the appointment.

Having a linear, goal-directed thought process.

Showing no obvious signs of mania or psychosis during the evaluation.

Not expressing suicidal or homicidal intent at that appointment.

Her screening scores were significant:

Edinburgh Postnatal Depression Scale: 21/30

GAD-7: 19

showing substantial depression and anxiety symptoms

Patrick came to an in person appointment and gave insights to Lindsay's behaviours and sleep struggles.

Jollotta testified that she considered the possibility of bipolar disorder.

Why?

She heard information about:

Lindsay going approximately 48 hours without sleeping without feeling tired.

Racing thoughts.

Her reactions to certain medications, including Zoloft.

Changes in her mood and energy.

Those things raised the possibility of an underlying bipolar-spectrum disorder. she never officially diagnosed her with bi-polar though

Lindsay was taking several medications and was increasingly concerned about how they made her feel.

One of the concerns she communicated to Jollotta involved Ativan and the possibility of becoming dependent on it.

She also reported feeling detached/disconnected from herself.

Jollotta responded by adjusting medication and discussing alternatives.

Lindsay also messaged Jollotta through the patient portal.

In one message, she described:

Intrusive thoughts she had never experienced before

Feeling completely hopeless

Concerns about becoming dependent on medication

Lindsay communicated regularly through the patient portal allowing the jury to see Lindsay was actually disclosing her concerns to her provider

Nurse Jollotta recommends and partial hospitalization program at a certain clinic

Lindsay went but was turned away due to them feeling she was on so many medications.

Lindsay was experiencing substantial depression, anxiety, insomnia and intrusive thoughts but Jollotta did not observe psychosis or believe Lindsay was going to harm herself or her children.

I found Nurse Jollotta to be very professional and competent. Unfortunately it seems that every prosecution witness says they didn't see concerns or signs of psychosis but clearly present a woman who was struggling and getting worse by the day.

Court ended for the day

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