Lindsay Clancy Trial- Day 8

Witness #47- Dr. Kimberly Springer- Called by the Prosecution

Medical Examiner

• Preformed a Autopsy on Callen on January 29th 2023

• As far as injuries she found abrasions on his neck, Poetical hemorrhages congruent with death by ligature strangulation

• Went over photos of injuries and of marks made by medical staff such as needles and other necessary medical equipment

Observations and Opinions:

the Judge warns jury of emotion provoking images and reminds jury that they must not be swayed by the emotion but rather stick to medical facts. Lindsay had her hands over face and cried during this whole testimony, she tried to keep it quiet but towards the end it was becoming quite auditable. Went to recess right after so she could regain composer, as camera is panning out and mics still recording you can here prosecution say something ( this comes back up later in the trial)

Witness #48- Dr. Lindsay Roshirt- called by prosecution

Clancy Family Paediatrician

• Started seeing the family in 2019

• Testifies that Callen had no health issues and was hitting his milestones, Dawson had a peanut allergy but other then that healthy, Cora had asthma that was controlled and otherwise healthy.

• They try to look for signs of Postpartum issues and give resources if needed but because they are their to treat the child or children they can't diagnose the parent

• Didn't notice any signs or see any reason for resources to be given.

• Prosecution tries to point out that Lindsay never had trouble communicating issues at appointments.

• Morning of January 24th she seen Lindsay and Cora for Cora's physical. Didn't notice any behaviour out of normal, discussed Cora's stomach aches and she told Lindsay to try Miralax.

• Patrick may have come to 1-2 appointments but usually it was always Lindsay taking the kids, the kids seemed happy and she had no concerns. She thought Lindsay was a good mother.

Witness #49-Susan Fraone- Called by the prosecution

Preschool Teacher at Learning Sprouts

• Dawson's teacher but also knew Cora due to staff rotating rooms so children could know all of them.

• Dawson had a bit of trouble with drop offs around October but other then that nothing to note

• She went on maternity leave in November, continued to see Lindsay at drop off's sometimes when she dropped off her own 3 year old.

• Lindsay asked her how her baby was, her demenor seemed fine and she could be understood as well as understand things during the conversation.

• Seen nothing of concern with either kids or Patrick and Lindsay.

Witness #50- Susan Bertolo- Called by the prosecution

Learning Sprouts Preschool Teacher

• Cora Clancy's teacher, Seen Patrick more at drop-offs but Lindsay was the more responsive one on the School Dojo app

• Last seen Cora on Jan 23rd 2023, Noted she had to use the bathroom more frequently that day and informed Lindsay of that at pick-up. Lindsay mentioned a previously scheduled appointment for the next day and that she would bring it up there.

• She never had any concerns regarding the Clancy family

• Noted that Cora mentioned her mom being in the hospital close to the last time seeing her and that Cora missed her.

Witness #51-Stephanie Williams- called by the prosecution

Preschool teacher at Learning Sprouts

• Cora's first teacher at learning sprouts when she was 3 yrs old. also Cora would join her room in the afternoons with the other children who went full days

• Describes Cora as a little girl who loved drawing, Princess Sophia and her little brothers.

• Mention the afternoon of January 23rd 2023, Cora had said her tummy hurt and laid on her cot until Lindsay picked her up

• Says she didn't notice any differences in Lindsay and that she was " just a very loving mother who cared about her children"

Witness #52- Andrea Henigan- Called by Prosecution

Labour & Delivery nurse at Mass General Hospital

• Lindsay's Co worker for 7 years

• They would text each other and after Callen was born She visited Lindsay and the baby in june at the Clancy home. Said Lindsay appeared to be good

• Next got together in November for lunch, Lindsay discussed having insomnia, not feeling her self, brain fog and not being in a mental state to go back to work and care for patients.

• Her and the other two Co-works/friends encouraged Lindsay to get help and reach out to people and shared resources.

• They checked in on her on January 2nd via text and Lindsay informed them that she was in an intensive program at the time

• Andrea reached out on January 23rd again, asked how the program was going, Lindsay said she was no longer in it but she was working wit her psychiatrist and trying to find medication that would allow her to sleep but function during the day, they were finding it difficult because she kept having side effects

• Describes Lindsay as a hopeful and positive person and that she remained hopeful she would get the help she needed. not one to complain about work, home or life in general.

• As a nurse she describes her as caring, attentive, nurturing and smart.

• says Lindsay would checkin on the kids during night shift and noted that Lindsay desired to be a mother from the moment she met her and never once mentioned wanting to leave that life behind

• when asked her opinion of Lindsay as a mother she describe she was loving and caring, wanted a big family with kids close in age and was happy to have that.

Witness #53- Bethany Decollibus- Called by the prosecution

Licensed Marriage and Family Therapist

• Friends with Lindsay, met as new mothers in Duxbury

• Would see her almost weekly due to the kids being in the same activities

• Describes Lindsay as active, engaged, friendly

• Didn't notice any changes in behaviour but noticed she was more tired over time after having Callen

• She said Lindsay confided in her about having troubles sleeping and while thats normal as the baby is a newborn she was becoming more worried for her when it wasn't improving as time went on.

• Lindsay was open with her about seeing a therapist and being on medications

• Never had trouble understanding her or concerns regarding her demeanour

• had dinner with her and a friend and checked in with Lindsay, there was no noticeable changes in behaviour or communication, Lindsay seemed hopeful to have found a provider to help her.

• Talked to her at Cora's Birthday and she noted Lindsay said things hadn't got better and she felt like a zombie.

• when asked to describe her as a mother, she says she loved her kids; was warm, kind, consistent and loving.

Witness #54-Amy Beavans- Called by the Prosecution

Licensed Behaviour Analyst in Early Childhood

• She has been Lindsay's best friend for 29 years went to school together from elementary through high school. Stayed in touch while in college and stayed in regular contact after mostly via text with the occasional visit when possible

• Describes Lindsay as Calm and Nice

• Says her personality stayed the same and she never noticed any concerning signs.

• She seen her last in November but texted her a couple days before and Lindsay had confided that she was struggle and she was taking some medications causing her to have dark thoughts but was trying a different medication and was hopeful it would help

• Visited Lindsay in March of 2023 at the Spalding Rehabilitation centre. Had light conversation, Lindsay asked about her daughter and their friends life updates. Talked about hobbies and played UNO

• No mention of Cora, Callen or Dawson but she was told not to bring it up and noted the topic was awkward as she was aware of the charges and Lindsay's injuries and that they tried to avoid the topic

My Opinion: SHE IS ONE HELL OF A FRIEND, not many people would go visit their friends after the circumstance that happened on Jan 24 2023!

Witness #55- Christopher Clancy- Called by the prosecution

Lindsay's Father in Law and Father to Patrick

• Describes Lindsay as a good mother who loved her kids and was very involved with them.

• He was aware Lindsay was struggling with her mental health, couldn't sleep and visited the emergency room.

• Noticed moments where Lindsay felt nervous or blank emotionally.

• He and his wife reached out to help when they seen how unwell Lindsay was, offered to take the kids for a few days but Patrick declined the offer.

Witness #56- Kyle Carney- Called by the prosecution

Patricks close friend from college

• The two family's would get together every other month, he noted that Lindsay was kind and caring with no concerning behaviours

• They invited the Clancy's for dinner on the 22nd of Jan, described Lindsay as quieter then usual.

• doesn't note and serious behaviour changes in 2022.

Witness #57- Andrew Chiachio- Called by the prosecution

State Police detective

• was tasked with investigation her social media accounts

• Found a parenting littles facebook group that Lindsay was apart of

• In this group Lindsay wrote a post concerning Dawson saying she found parenting him difficult and that it was constant battles and was looking for advice on how to handle him

• when he was questioned about it he testified their was no evidence that Lindsay was ever abusive to the children

Jury is sent home for the day

My opinion overall today: Went through a lot of witnesses but they all seemed to help the defences claims that Lindsay was a great mother who loved her kids and never wanted to harm them.

The prosecution talked A LOT about things like:

Could Lindsay Communicate

Could She understand things

Did she have any slurred speech

Any odd behaviours

Claim to hear any voices

Express suicidal or Homicidal thoughts.

I think they were trying to imply that because she wasn't showing obvious signs of a Psychotic break, she couldn't have one but unfortunately I think it made the jury see Lindsay as a great mother who was trying to get help.

Conversations without the jury

At the end of the day, there was a significant discussion between the judge and attorneys concerning the prosecution's characterization of Lindsay's suicide attempt.

The judge indicated concern that the prosecution's questioning could be interpreted as suggesting that Lindsay's suicide attempt was fake.

The Commonwealth clarified its position:

• It was not claiming Lindsay didn't seriously intend to die.

• It was not saying the suicide attempt was fake.

• Instead, the prosecution was arguing that the methods she chose were unlikely to accomplish the intended result, and said its reasoning would become clearer through later medical testimony.

The state is trying to object to certain defence witnesses citing they don't have time to review or prepare a cross examine for the doctors.

The defence counters with saying that it's the prosecutions evidence that the witnesses would be testifying to and that they should know it already and have many staff members who can help them.

the judge can't understand how the prosecution couldn't predict an defence expert on how she went out the window. when the issue of how Lindsay became injured and how she exited the window has been brought up a lot.